Vivek Ranadive, CEO of Tibco
Yes, so you know what’s happening is actually both Greg. So it’s selling to smaller businesses and that’s only a part of it. But a lot of these sales we’re running into is – I was speaking to the CIO of a major bank and Tableau has made significant inroads into the bank. And what he said to me is that look all the smart people know, they all love Spotfire. But all the dumb people they use Tableau. And I looked at them and said geez, there’s many more dumb people in the world than there are smart people. So that doesn’t give me any comfort.